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Entertainment or Learning?

Journal Entry: Fri Jul 18, 2008, 4:08 PM
Do you post your artwork at DeviantArt mostly to have fun?  Or to learn?  Or perhaps a bit of both?  (And if it's both, which one dominates?)

I was posting around in the forums and some of the threads there made me think of this.  I joined DA nearly 5 years go mostly out of curiosity at first.  I'd met some cool artists on another site, and they all had DA accounts, so I followed them here.  

It was the first time I'd really met any fellow artists on-line.  So DA was a marvelous place to me.  For the first time ever, someone besides my family and few closest friends were actually seeing my art. You know those people in your life who really love to cook?  They cook for the sheer enjoyment of it, but they also love having someone over to actually eat what they make?  That was how I felt.  I draw for myself first, but it was wonderful actually having people (and complete strangers at that) looking at what I had done.

For me, DA has always been about entertainment/fun.  It's why I came here, and it's why I've stayed.  I love looking at other people's artwork here. I enjoy seeing worlds being created, I like being inspired.  I don't really look at artwork with the thought of critiquing just like I don't usually go into a movie theatre expecting to analyze the movie. I just want to soak everything in.   

I'll critique or comment specifically on something if someone asks, but otherwise, I generally don't do that.  And I generally don't expect people to do that with my stuff either.  I post my art because I hope that people will enjoy it.  I don't really post for educational purposes.  I don't have any expectation (or desire, for the most part) of a serious comment or critique from people.

I have learned a lot from DA though.  I think just being exposed to a community like this and enjoying the artwork here makes one improve automatically. It's almost impossible to NOT improve in such an environment, IMO.  And personally, just knowing that there are viewers out there makes me want to get better in the same way a person would want to cook tastier, more ambitious dishes when they know they have company over.  The learning has been great, but it's mostly been a casual, passive side-effect of being here.  This place is an art playground for me first and foremost, not a school.

That's my personal attitude of this place.  But I was wondering if most other people felt the same way?  Based on some of the threads I've seen, it seems like some people yearn for something more.  Some folks want serious critique.  Others want comments that are more specific.  Is that what most people want here?  

Why do you post at DA?  What is it that you get out of this place that you like?  What do you feel is missing?  Are you here mostly for the fun of it?  Or are you hoping to learn?  Or a bit of both?  

Just wondering.  :)


Oh, by the way, I have a new poll up, but it never made it to people's message centers.  Mind voting?  ^_^





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:iconhollarity:
*hollarity Jul 24, 2008  Student General Artist
I joined DA orignially because my friends had accounts on it... Before DA, I never really thought much of posting your artwork online.... Artwork was always a personal thing, meant to be shared between yourself and your close friends...
but DA has caused me to expand my horizons...
I post pictures for fun, and pictures to showcase my skills.... *okay- well, to show that i can draw somewhat XD*
but it has really helped me to improve... to learn and understand about what people love and gain from other peoples artwork...
Over the past year, my style has drastically changed and grown, as I experiment with new techniques and ideas...

my ideals and world views have also grown over the year....

As I see it, the internet is like one giant brain or soul, that we all add to and collaborate in.... each story chaining together to form something bigger... something better...


ugh... but yes... I do mostly post work for fun... I still keep my more serious stuff to myself... Still personal...

as for comments though, I love them... Not the "omg rofl" ones,but the ones where the commentor responds with how the piece made them feel.... what ideas it invoked in them...

okay- sorry for the long message... But again, I love your journals with these interesting questions X3
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:iconhakubaikou:
Thanks! And I love reading responses like yours. (I just sometimes take a while to respond to them, ha!)

I'm glad that you've grown so much in the last year. :)
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:iconaoishu:
I post my stuff just to share, to find people who think similarly, with whom I can talk afterwards.
These people teach me new thigns about what i did. They see somethign different in my stuff sometimes, other times they pinpint just what i FELT when drawing - and it is also so iteresting and precious.
Through other's eyes your work starts an independent life. Getting to know how people relate to your work - it's such a great feeling.

I usually don't give critique on finished work, WIP - yes, it can help, but finished work.. it hurts if someone bashes it. Well of course there can be cases when a comment might help or if author specifically asks.

But for me, any gallery if for meeting people, sharing, learning from others. I must say - i learned a lot about techniques and all possible things from fellow artists.

DA is a bit impersonal, which is sad. There are popular people, who attract a lot of attention. Usually they don't; care to answer comments tho^^; But it is easy to get lost in the sheer multitude of stuff posted here.

Still I found a coupe of people with whom one can talk about all possible tings, and who share their ideas and views of the picture - so interesting.
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:iconhakubaikou:
I also post mostly to share. I don't really have friends in real life with whom I can talk about artwork like I do here. Most of my real life friends don't really draw.

And yes, DA can be a bit impersonal at times. It's really impossible to get to know everyone you run across here, but the friends that you do make, make it all worthwhile, IMO. :)
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:iconcalger459:
*calger459 Jul 21, 2008  Professional Filmographer
Hmm well at first for me it was just a fun thing to do, but over time my DA gallery has become more imporant to me, in that it's safe place to post my "sillier" work (aka fanart or nigh-fanart as the case may be) that I wouldn't feel comfortable putting in my professional gallery on my site. Of course getting feedback is gratifying too, and if I get constructive critque (sadly very rare, just as it is in the fanfiction world) it makes my day! But I also love DA's great faving system, and being able to scroll through all the wonderful artwork I've discovered over the past couple years is very inspiring to me.
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:iconhakubaikou:
I'm the same way. DA is a like a big art playground. I don't use it professionally. In fact, I make an effort to not post any links between my professional site and my DA gallery.
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:iconcalger459:
*calger459 Aug 19, 2008  Professional Filmographer
*nods* exactly, they have to be separate pretty much by necessity, and DA isn't too conducive to posting animation anyway ;) Actually, where is your professional gallery? I'd love to see it :)
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:iconhakubaikou:
My job stuff I can't post publicly yet, since the films I worked on aren't complete, and I don't own the rights to the images.

But on my website, I have my personal works (ones that I like more) posted. And then if people want to see job-related works, I have to have them e-mail me. It's pretty much the same stuff on DA except without all the fanart and the goofy chibi stuff.

A lot of my personal works are actually more polished. With the job art, a lot of them are very sketchy, since I had very little time to do them. (Like 5 days for nearly 20 paintings with multiple people and complete backgrounds.) Either that, or they're a mix of painting and actual film frames.

If you watch the Scorpion King 2 trailer online, a few of my shots made it into the trailer. The most obvious is this shot toward the end where the actor grabs a sword that's spinning in mid air. I added the sword and animated it in Photoshop. (Yes. You read that right.) Heh! It's not a good movie though.
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*calger459 Aug 19, 2008  Professional Filmographer
Wow really?Hey that's still pretty cool! I'll have to check out the trailer and look for that :D Yeah it sucks waiting for the ability to post professional work, I'm still waiting for the all clear on a freelance animation I completed earlier this year. I enjoy most how my photoshop backgrounds came out and I'd love to show them! Just..can't yet, and it seems like the debut of the animation has been delayed to 2009. Boo.
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:iconhakubaikou:
Yeah. I'm still so new at all of this, none of my stuff can be posted yet. Sad!!! D:

^_^
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